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What if you had...
Last updated at 2:15 pm UTC on 31 October 2004
What if you had 3 months to do just what you want?
If everything goes right (and I won't get eaten by the Y2K bug :-), I will have these 3 months around 2Q2000. (update: it's more like 1Q2001... and yes, I'm working on SCAN/Collage)
My current plan is to finish one of my unfinished Squeak projects. However, I have difficulty deciding which one... You could help me by voting (and probably offering assistance...) for one of these projects.

Hans-Martin Mosner

Project
Dynamic Primitives
Status
Working Prototype
My preference
High
Description
See DynamicPrimitives
Votes
Put your votes here
Is this required for a shader language in the 3D stuff.ZZ-2000

It's not exactly required, but that was part of my motivation for starting this: I wanted to generate 3D rendering primitives using that system. However, that specific goal has been obsoleted by Andreas Raab's Balloon3D stuff. – Hans-Martin






Project
WysiTeX
Status
Working System in VisualWorks
My preference
Medium
Description
WysiTeX is a WYSIWYG TeX editor. It is implemented around an almost complete implementation of TeX written in Smalltalk. Currently, it runs in VisualWorks 2.0. Performance is acceptable for testing documents with a few pages.
Look here for some screenshots: http://www.heeg.de/~hmm/projects/WysiTeX/
Newsflash! I have it running under VisualWorks 5i3. Download it from here: http://squeak.heeg.de:8080/VisualWorks/WysiTeX.
Votes
Bijan Parsia puts a vote here!
Andrew C. Greenberg thinks this would be way cool.






Project
Collage and SCAN (project on hold )
Status
Collage: Experiments
SCAN: (Mostly) working server and client at http://squeak.heeg.de:8080/
My preference
High
Description
Collage and SCAN (project on hold ) is yet another approach at source code and configuration management. It has a highly declarative aspect and should work quite well in the Smalltalk context, preserving the malleability while giving better control over what you're doing.
Votes
Put your votes here
JasonMcVay votes for this one!
Hannes Hirzel as well; and David J. Pennell. Matthias Berth votes for this one, too – especially for the SCAN part.
Alex Stockdale too.
John Duncan three!
Collage looks great - go for it! Peter Smet.
Bijan Parsia puts a vote here! (What! We can't vote more than once? Dang. I vote that HMM gets six mont...er...twelve months!)
Me too! Bob Jarvis
Stephan B. Wessels I vote that this capability is needed to get Squeak taken seriously in many development departments. I also am volunteering to help. I've written many application or source management tools for Smalltalk in the past. About a year ago I even did some experiments that extended the MVC development environment with Team/V like browser look-and-feel. My wife and I just (11/29/1999) purchased a home so I'm pretty busy for the next month or so but after that I'm interesting in help any way that I can.
Paolo Bonzini Yuk! A pretty good idea!! That's what open-source Smalltalks lack to really rock!!!
Göran Krampe Even though this "competes" with a CVS solution that I am working on at http://www.bluefish.se:8080/sqcvs.1 I vote for this one! (Dynamic primitives is also nice of course... :-)
Hans-Martin: Yes I know that it competes with the CVS project. I have two points:
  • I was first
  • I always like to do things my way :-)
Vanessa Freudenberg doesn't want to start a CVS/Collage war but thinks Collage is much more smalltalky ...
Helge Horch votes for this one, too. He couldn't help, since he's still fascinated by the Goldstein/Bobrow paper on "Layered Software Design"...
Since it looks like the CVS approach is gaining steam that's a great choice from my point of view too. The only thing I can think of that would deter from using CVS across the board would be if it doesn't work on the porting platforms. - Steve Wessels
Göran Krampe: I think that both projects are good. SqueakCVS wants to enable Squeak to use CVS. Period. But SqueakCVS will probably not be "revolutionary", so, since choice is always good, both projects are interesting! Then there is this ROAR (?) thingy too so... We can probably exchange both code and experience too. :-) By the way, I am leaning towards building a pure Squeak CVS client directly on top of the CVS protocol. This would mean that it will run on all Squeak platforms, which means that any Squeak could connect and interact with a CVS server. (the server requires some form of UNIX or Win32)
Mark Schwenk thinks this sounds great!
Jason Steffler My vote is definately for SCAN, (though CVS is definately good too; this is a common standard code mgt tool in many shops) sometimes when I rave about Smalltalk/Envy somebody actually gets interested enough to check it out, and I refer them to Squeak due to it's openness and portability, but one of the early things they bump into is code management - after hearing about Envy, change sets are somewhat anti-climatic.






Project
SqueakOS
Status
None
My preference
Medium
Description
My idea is to implement a complete OS in Smalltalk with device drivers, TCP/IP stack etc, not to put a Squeak onto a given microkernel. I have never done such a thing, so the chances are probably slim that I could do it in the timeframe, but I consider this really interesting...
Votes
Put your votes here
andre garzia: Sounds Cool, but realy challenging...
Stefan Rieken: Go Go Go! But I would advise you to use existing code. For instance using FreeDOS as a kernel gives you a lot of supported hardware. Or do like AROS and make an interface to Linux drivers, then you're always up to date :-)
Hans-Martin: The biggest problem with using an existing system is that 99% of them are PC-based. I've got a Mac. That says it all...
John Tobler: Check out the SqueakNOS project already underway on SourceForge: https://sourceforge.net/projects/SqueakNOS/.

Jim Menard: This one gets my vote. As John wrote, be sure to look at SqueakNOS. I'd like to help, but kernels and drivers are not my area.